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How To Succeed In Business And Leisure In Thailand
Are you considering doing any kind of business in Thailand? Thinking of retiring in Thailand? Considering building a house in Thailand, or simply just want to enjoy a holidy there?
The way you go about any of these activities can substantially alter the outcome for you. The manner in which you interact with the Thais is very important and here are some words of wisdom from a person who has been very successful in business in Thailand for may years.
I received this in an email yesterday and realised that it may be useful advice to visitors to this website so I decided to post it here exactly as it was written:-
Dear Alan,
Thanks very much for your kind words again.
As my father says ‘it costs nothing to be nice and good willed !’ Okay lets me go through your e-mail and answer various points.
Thanks for your enthusiastic and positive approach to working with us Alan.
Over the many years of helping people design and build homes, it is very noticeable that people with a good attitude are always the ones who benefit far more. Not just with our company but overall with doing business here in Thailand.
They are the ones who get best help, and they are the ones who get better prices. I see this so many times and not just with our company.
People who are rude, arrogant, think they know it all, or are overly demanding, always end up with problems in Thailand. They get less and they create far more problems for themselves.
That attitude does not work here and only creates negative results.
The polite, calm, positive and understanding way is without doubt the best approach here in Thailand.
We have been very lucky over the years and all our customers have been exceptionally nice, positive, understanding and willing to listen to good advice.
Over the years we have built a reputation for customer care, quality and excellent value for money, so we are always happy when customers reward us with kind words and compliments.
Yos and I are enjoying working with you Alan and the architect looks forward to completing your designs. Any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact me. I am here to help.
Kind Regards,
Chris Clayton
(Managing Director)
Kensington Company Limited
That email was sent in response to one of mine to Chris with regards to the Thai house they are designing for our retirment to Pakchong.
I can really recommend the Kensington Company Limited to you for many reasons if you are looking for a Thai Architect to design your future retirment home. Some of the reasons for recommending Kensington are in another post of mine called “A Thai Architect In Bangkok Is Making Our Retirement House Plans “. By the way, if you do go to Kensington, please let Chris know who recommended you to them because you will then get special treatment and perhaps a discount on their fees!
Well, I hope you can take that advice from Chris and put it to use. I do in fact work as an engineer in the construction industry and deal on a daily basis with subcontractors and designers. I find that, as you suggest, I get better results from them than other people do because I win their respect by being honest, considerate and knowledgable.
How To Work Successfully With A Thai Architect
Kensington, and more specifically, Yos, their Thai Architect are making an excellent job of translating my concept for our retirment house for Pakchong into real working drawings that can be used for a construction contract with a Thai builder. And all this design process is carried on with me and my wife here in the U.K. (Great Britain) and Yos being in Bangkok. Communication is by email with Kensington sending me drawings at various stages and me sending our (me and my wife) comments back.
I have started posting the drawings and our comments on the website. You can see one set of comments on the Comments On Thai Architects Preliminary House Design web page.
If you want to see the first concept drawings I made for our retirment house go to the How To Build A House In Thailand web page.
To see the plans made by the Thai architect based on our concept drawings go the the House Plans For Our Retirement House Produced By A Thai Architect web page. In addition to the plans (drawings) of our Thai house you will see perspectives of the house. these look like photograms of the house taken from different angles but they are in fact screenshots taken from a 3D (three dimensional) computer model of the house.
A Thai Architect In Bangkok Is Making Our Retirement House Plans
On 14th July 2010, we gave the go-ahead to a Bangkok-based Architectural design-and-build company to proceed with producing the construction drawings for our retirement house we want to build in Pakchong, Thailand.
The company is called Kensington Company Limited and according to their Thai Builders website they have designed and built many beautiful and prestigious properties and won several awards including the Conde Nast Hottest 100 Asia Hotels Award May 2008 for designing and building “The Villa Water Orchid”.
Although I was a bit apprehensive at appointing the company from arms length i.e. from U.K. via email and not having met them in Thailand, I must say that to date I am very impressed with their service and the quality of their design work. The architect has now produced the final ground and first floor house layouts which I have now approved. Also, he has produced some very nice perspective views of the house obtained from a 3D computer model he has made.
I have posted some of these drawings on the website on the Thai Architects House Plans page at http://retiringinthailand.net/house-build-thailand-2/thai-architects-house-plans. I have some more perspective views which I’ll post there in a couple of days time and as I receive more details I’ll post those on that page also.
In addition to the high quality of the drawings, plans if you like, the architect is producing I want to mention other things that has made me very glad that we chose to proceed with the Kensington Company.
Excellent Service. I deal exclusively via email with Chris Clayton the Managing Director of the Kensington Company. Chris is always quick to respond to my emails usually within hours and always on the same day.
Further, both Chris and Yos, the Thai Architect, keep telling me that they want me to be happy and nothing is too much trouble. If I want to change something or don’t like what Yos has proposed for a particular situation, Yos will change it if I ask for it to be changed. Here for example are typical snippets from some of Chris’s email:-
“I am glad it all seems clearer. I know it can be difficult doing it thousands of miles away by e-mail. But have no worries. Yos and I will work on this design until you are happy which I think will come together fairly quickly now. Now things are clearer to all.”
“No problem at all. It’s my pleasure and also my job to help. Yos will happily make whatever changes you ask for.”
Quality Assurance. Another concern I had was that I had produced sketches of my concept for the house and knew that there were certain areas where my concept needed some development to make it work. One example is the roofs. My concept is visually pretty but as Yos pointed out for several reason is unpractical and would lead to leaks and difficulties in construction. Hence the architect’s roof solution is different from my concept and I have to accept this. At every step of the way Yos is checking my concept to make sure that what he delivers is practical and complies with the Thai building regulations and standards. This is from one of Chris’s emails discussing my concept for the roofs:-
“Dear Alan,
Thanks for all the comments and ideas.
Yos has gone over them carefully. He is happy to help you in anyway and try to come up with solutions. However he is particularly concerned with your desire for this roof design you have created. Naturally he wants you to have the home as you like it but as an architect he has to point out to you and make it clear if your choices are potentially going to cause problems to you, the home or the construction contractor. He was worried about this roof and asked me please to point it out again to you. He suggested the roof style he did because it is practical for construction and Thailand’s weather. Whereas if he does it as you want, you will have problems with leaks and practical issues to be concerned about.
He has written a explanation with drawings to try and help everyone understand what he means. He is happy to do as you ask but wants you to know it could very easily cause you problems with the house.
Look forward to your comments and resolving this issue. If you have any thoughts or ideas please forward them. Very important you the customer is happy but at the same time the home will be practical.”
And this is an extract from Yos’s messages to me:-
“Dear Alan
What we are most concerned about is the house has to be comfortable for living, be suitable for the Thai weather, and be in line with Thai construction methods and practical. So as an architect I may make comments or observations that from experience in both design and construction I feel are necessary and the best advice for you as the home owner. I hope you do not mind me doing this but I would like to explain one more time perhaps better than before so it is clear regarding the roof. I can do whatever you ask but naturally I am responsible for the design of the home and I need to make sure everything is clear, in case something asked means the house will have problems or not be practical. Here are my thoughts and comments:”
Ease of Communication. I was again concerned about the ability to communicate ideas and thoughts across the world to a Thai company in Bangkok from my home in the U.K. In fact this has turned out to be very easy because as you can see in the message from Yos above, Yos has an excellent command of the English language.
In summary, therefore, we are very happy with the way the production of the construction drawings is progressing. Although the process is far from complete, the service we have received from the Kensington Company to date gives us confidence that the final set of drawings will be perfectly acceptable.
Assuming that will be the case then we will have proven that you can commission a Thai architect in Bangkok, Thailand to design your retirement home in Thailand even if you live half way round the world and never even visit Thailand.
Having said that, the drawings are not yet complete, there is still much work to do, and only then will I be able to give a 100% recommendation of the Kensington Company.
More Information And Thai House Plan Drawings
Please make sure you visit the web page Thai Architects House Plans periodically to check out the latest drawings and perspectives of our planned retirement house. In fact, to make sure you are alerted whenever I post new information why not join the Announcement List by entering your name and email at the top of this page? I will then send you an email whenever anything interested is posted on the website.
Get A Free Consultation For Thai House Plans – Have Your Retirement House Designed Or Built In Thailand
Chris, Managing Director of Kensington Company will be happy to meet with anyone who contacts him from this website or from my recommendation and he will provide a personal service and a free consultation. If you do contact Kensington Company mak sure that you ask for Chris. To make is easy for you I have put a Contact Kensington Form on the website for you to use.
Why I Chose To Retire in Pak Chong, Thailand
Pak Chong is the biggest district (amphoe) of Nakhon Ratchasima (Korat) Province, and is about 250 km North east from Bangkok.
Close to the Khao Yai national park, Pak Chong is in the foothills of a range of mountains separating the Menam Plain from the Khorat Plateau. What this means is that apart from the natural beauty of the area, it is cooler and far more comfortable than the swealtering heat of Bangkok.
There. I have already hit on three reasons why I chose to retire to Pak Chong in Thailand. Let me amplify a little:-
Not Too Far From Bangkok
Although Bangkok has many attractions and can be great fun, it is simply too hot, too busy and too overbearing a place to live. But I don’t like to be ‘out in the sticks’ and far away from western civilisation. By this I mean that as a Westerner I like my western comforts. I could not stand living in the deep country out of touch with city facilities. I like my Tesco Lotus supermarkets, seafood restaurants, department stores and country and western music bars.
A Touch of American Wild West
Pak Chong, though, although away from the bustle of Bangkok is only a 2 hour journey by car. Pak Chong itself is not very westernised. There is only one half-decent hotel, The Landmark Hotel, a couple of bars and a couple of reasonable Thai restaurants. There is no western style restaurant so be prepared to eat Thai food if you visit Pak Chong.
Close to Pak Chong on the Chokchai cattle farm at Nongnamdaeng, though, and adding to it’s charm and reasons to retire there, is the Chokchai Steakhouse. A true American style Steak House serving delicious renowned steaks. This area of the country is true ‘American Cowboy’ country and at Christmas there is a festival in Pak Chong with many American style Country and Western bands, plenty of food and Thai men and women dressed up as cowboys/cowgirls complete with six shooters!
Although Pak Chong does not have any department stores and the nearest Tesco Lotus supermarket used to be about an hour’s drive towards Saraburi, Pak Chong now boasts it’s own Tesco superstore.
Cooler Climate
As I mentioned, because Pak Chong is away from the city-generated heat of Bangkok and being in the foothills of the Khorat Plateau at about 320 m above sea level, it is cooler and much fresher than Bangkok. Unlike Bangkok which is blighted with polluted , murkey and dust-laden skies Pak Chong has clear blue skies and feels far less humid.
Picturesque Hilly Scenery
As you can image, with Pak Chong being the gateway to the country’s largest national park, Khao Yai with it’s breathtaking natural mountaines scenery, the views all around are of unspoilt rolling hills and mountain ranges. I wouldn’t call the countryside around Pak Chong breathtakingly beautiful, that would do a disservice to the truly spectacular parts of Thailand, but it certainly is very pretty and relaxing.
Sizeable Expat Community
Although I said that there was not very much westernised in Pak Chong there are quite a few westerners who live there. Righfully so, Pak Chong is a week end retreat for rich Bangkokians and quite a few residential developments have sprung un in recent years. Westerners are attracted to these developments, propably for the reasons I am giving here, so it will not be difficult for me to build up a circle of western friends.
I should mention that our land, where we intend to build our retirment house, is not on one of these residential developments, but is located between two Thai households alongside the Pakchong Khirirom Resort. The location suits us fine we don’t want to be part of a housing estate and we paid a fraction of the price for the land than we would have to if we bought from one of the developments.
I’m Travelling To Thailand Despite The FO Travel Ban And The Unrest
As I mentioned in my last post “How A Foreigner Can Get The Legal Right To Use Land In Thailand” it’s time now (Thursday 29 April 2010) to visit Thailand to sign the Chanote, pay the balance of the land cost and finally take ownership of the land upon which we (my wife and myself) will build our retirement house.
In fact I have my air ticket and fly out from London Heathrow to Bangkok on Thai Airways flight TG917 on Friday evening. (Friday 30 April 2010)
Is It Safe To Travel To Thailand – What Travel Advice Is Being Given Out?
On the British Foreign Office website is a warning for people to avoid all but essential travel to the whole of Thailand due to the increasingly volatile and tense political situation.”
So, I have been keeping a close watch on the situation in view of my own trip to Thailand. The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) and the Royal Thai Embassy have asked for a meeting with the Foreign Office to try to get this travel warning lifted – or at least downgraded, and insist that a travel warning should only apply to bangkok, where most of the disturbances are taking place.
Before now the Foreign Office’s advice was only to avoid traveling to Bangkok, where 26 people have been killed in the anti-government protests and many hundreds have been injured. but now the advice is to avoid travelling to any part of Thailand.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand’s Travel Advice
There is a very informative article on “Political Developments In Thailand: Advice For Visitors “ on the Tourism Authority of Thailand’s website.
They report as follows:-
“For tourists visiting the Kingdom, it should be stressed that foreigners have not been targeted in the on-going political conflict. However, visitors and tourists are advised to be vigilant, follow news developments, exercise extra caution and avoid areas near the UDD rally site and areas where demonstrators gather.” (Thursday 29th April 2010)
Thailand’s Ministry Of Foreign Affairs Website
The website of the Thai Ministry Of Foreign Affairs is great place to get updates on the political unrest situation in Thailand.
They report that the ‘Red Shirts’ are now protesting without wearing red shirts making the situation more uncontrollable and more dangerous for ordinary people.
When the Police tried to stop the Red Shirts demonstrators attempting to stage rallies and pass through the authorities’ checkpoint on Viphavadee Rangsit Road in the northern suburbs of Bangkok, heavy weapons were discovered – apparently left behind by a fleeing demonstrator. These weapons included 62 M79 grenades and some parts of a M203 grenade launcher.
Clearly the checkpoint on Viphavadee Rangsit Road is one place to avoid.
On a practical note, my main concern about my trip to visit Thailand to buy my retirement land is that there is a chance- albeit a slim one – that the Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport could be closed down by protesters.
Is Now Really A Good Time To Thinking About Retiring In Thailand?
Given the civil unrest in Bankok, and dangers to Thais and tourists alike, not to mention the inconvenience of not being able to travel around Bangkok freely, is now really the best time to be considering retiring in Thailand?
I don’t know your take on that, but here’s mine:-
In the first place I’m not retiring to Thailand right now. I’m planning my retirement in Thailand now, but it will be at least another year before I’m ready to finally retire. But right now I definitely am planning and getting ready to retire in Thailand.
Here’s why I say that.
Sure, I am buying a plot of land to build our retirement home on in Thailand as you can read on the web page “Buying Our Land In Thailand”
But having bought the land, and bought a a brand new car (Toyota Hilux pickup) in Thailand plus buying anew car here in the U.K. my pension pot has been eroded somewhat. Plus the retirement house we intend to build in Thailand that I have designed has been priced by a Thai Architect and at the moment it’s outside by current budget. So I need to stay here in the U.K. for a year or so to save up the cash to build the house.
Building the house I expect to be done in stages over a one year period.
So after a year (or thereabouts) I should have a place in Thailand to live. I already have a small (large for Thailand) monthly pension so I will have enough income.
Secondly, if you’re still with me, these troubles are temporary. Thailand has a history of unrest and Coups and I don’t suppose it’s going to change anytime soon. So I think that even if you postpone your retirement to Thailand for a year or even more, the situation will be more or less tha same.
In the longer term, there is some risk of things changing for the worst when King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand passes on. He is 82 now and has just made an appeal for stability in his first public speech since protests began in the capital seven weeks ago.
The people of Thailand love their King and has some stabalising influence on the country. “Our political system has been unstable all the time. So whenever there is a political crisis people expect the King to solve the problem” says Prof Suchit Bunbongkarn.
Former Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun describes King Bhumibol’s authority as “reserve power” that, because it has been used judiciously and sparingly, has been decisive in maintaining the country’s stability.
That’s why there is such disconcerting concerns about a post-King Bhumibol era.
According to what my wife tells me there is no readily apparent suitable heir to the throne.
So post King Bhumibol I can expect Thailand to change. I’m not particularly referring to civil unrest – my concern is more related to any laws that may change and make life for a retiree in Thailand more difficult.
So perhaps now is a good time to retire in Thailand – before any laws change!

