Phase 2 Complete And Just Two Weeks To Go Before Returning To Thailand

When the Letting Agent took the photos of our empty house in Nottingham, UK, yesterday (Friday 23 May 2014) for use in marketing the property for renting out it marked the end of Phase 2 of our visit here in UK.

Phase 1 being the packing and shipping of my model engineering workshop and all our belongings to Thailand, which were in a container on 7th My and bound for a ship to Thailand.

Here are some photos of our re-decorated and empty house in Nottingham, UK. The house has been emptied and re-decorated so that we can let it out and earn a small income whilst we live in our retirement home in Pakchong (Pak Chong), Thailand, instead of the house absorbing large running costs even though we are not living there.

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What’s The point Of Showing You These Photos Of An Empty House?

It’s not to show off our beautiful house in Nottingham because it’s not beautiful at all.

It’s to show you how difficult it is to pack up all your belongings and ship them overseas to Thailand while you are still living in the same house which has (virtually) no furniture in it.

OK so there’s a sofa. But that’s only still here because it wouldn’t fit through the door when a charity company came to remove it. It’s actually quite convenient because I sleep on the sofa and Kanyah sleeps on the floor. (Thais can do that)

The day before we leave for Thailand the sofa will have to be cut up with a saw and posted out through the front door. When it came in to the house the front door was an old wooden one since replaced with a modern pvc door which is smaller than the old wooden door – hence the sofa won’t go out through it in one piece!

Basically all we have left to live with is the stuff we can carry in our bags on the plane back to Thailand.

The Price Of Owning An Empty House

When I was in Thailand for the last eight months on my trial retirement I was always concerned that we were spending a huge amount of money just maintaining our house in Nottingham, which of course we were not using. The sums of money we were paying out were huge compared to my single pension.

Here is a list of the annual and monthly bills I currently pay to keep the house running:-

Name Amount (£) Cost PA Cost Monthly Description
AA INSURANCE £4.49 £53.88 £4.49 Not Sure
BRITISH GAS SERVS £30.99 £371.88 £30.99 Homecare Insurance
CURRYS 3218064280 £8.00 £96.00 £8.00 Washing Machine
CURRYS 5002410821 £3.49 £41.88 £3.49 Fridge
NPOWER £49.00 £588.00 £49.00 Gas & Electric
SEVERN TRENT WATER £74.97 £149.94 £12.50 Water
COUNCIL TAX £837.91 £837.91 £69.83 Council Tax
HOUSE BUILDINGS INSURANCE £271.00 £271.00 £22.58 House Buildings Insurance
HOUSE CONTENTS INSURANCE £241.00 £241.00 £20.08 House Contents Insurance
TOTALS £2,139.49 £178.29

You can easily live on £178.29 (about 10,000 Thai Baht) a month in Thailand.

But what I’m planning is even better. The tenant will pay all those bills and I expect to receive £400 a month in rent. So we’ll be £578 (32,000 Thai Baht) a month better off. That’s around 1,000 Baht a day – you can’t spend that amount of money on daily living in Thailand.

Counting The Days To returning To Thailand

So now with the Phase 1 (packing and shipping) and Phase 2 (preparing the house for letting out) complete and exactly two weeks to go before we fly back to Thailand for permanent retirement and with not much to do except some admin jobs we really are counting the days until we leave.

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6 Responses to “Our Empty UK House Photos And Running Costs”

  • 10,000 Thai Baht per month to live on is somewhat optimistic! That alone is our rent!


    admin Reply:

    Hi Mike,

    10,000 Baht a month is around 322 baht a day. Here in Pakchong (Pak Chong) that is just under the wage of a labourer. We can easily live on that amount of money if we limit my Leo beer consumption. Typically my lunch costs 30 Baht plus 55 baht for a bottle of beer = 85 Baht. Kanyah normally eats at home so that is less cost, but lets double the 85 Baht to 170 Baht. then double again to allow for other things like water, fuel for the car and electricity and we are at 340 Baht. Just a bit over the 322 Baht I said we could live on.

    Note that we don’t go to expensive restaurants (often) and I only have one meal a day – all you need in Thailand’s climate.

    So yes, you can live on 322 Baht/day. We own our own house so there is no rent to pay.

    To be honest we always budgeted our retirement on 1,000 Baht per day and we have that income from another source already.

    But – and this is a big B U T – my model engineering hobby is VERY expensive. I have spent around 1 million Baht this year just on the 6″ scale model traction engine project alone and expect to spend another 100,000 Baht on it before it’s finished.

    Hope that helps to clarify things about what it costs us to live in Thailand.

    Alan and Kanyah from Nottingham, UK.


  • Hope the rental works out! I rent apartments in the USA. I come back every year to redo some that are empty. I try to rent to good people but it is hard to know who will be good!
    I do the opposite. I keep an apartment in Thailand for $60/per month when I am not there. I can send u some pics if you want?
    Love and Laughter—Jim


    admin Reply:

    Hi jim,

    I don’t know how the USA rental market works. Here in the UK I contract with a Letting Agent who looks after the property for me. They find the tenants, do any necessary repairs or maintenance to the house.

    What’s important is that the letting agency vets any potential renters. They do a credit check and etc. They collect the rent and send be the balance after deducting their fee which is a modest 10%.

    I expect them to do all the work and for me not to need to return here to the UK for at least 5 or 10 years to deal with property issues by which time I will probably sell it and spend the money on my next huge model engineering project!

    No there’s a thought. I quite fancy building a steam powered long-tailed boat to run on the nearby reservoirs.

    Keep in touch,

    Alan and Kanyah from Nottingham, UK.


  • Mark van Veen:

    Hi Alan,

    Glad you are getting on fine and overcame your earlier reservations

    Watch rentals and paying all the bills rental markets are cut throat it is unusual for a tenant to pay buildings insurance that is usually for the account of the owner (assuming you do own outright) if they choose they can get contents for their own belongings.

    Do you have a 2 bedroom house? Your insurance seems very high rebuilding cost is less than market value (the land costs the most and is still there even if a house burns down completely). Give you an idea my 2 bed mid terrace in Kegworth through (£76 cashback on a policyexpert insurance AXA as underwriter) £126.50-£76 worked out at around £50 for £million rebuilding and £75,000 contents no accidental stuff in case I put my foot through the ceiling from the attic or spill a tin of paint on the carpet (I’m not that careless!)expensive add ons which aren’t really worth it if you have a modicum of carefulness and responsibility.

    OK areas are different and I don’t know about your claims history (mine is all clean for 12 years since buying the house)but you should be able to get better than £500 a year combined I would think OK there is an issue of being away which affects burglary premiums and the such like but if there will be a tenant then it will be occupied.

    Cheers Mark


    admin Reply:

    Hi Mark and thanks for commenting.

    I must admit you have lost me a bit there on insurance and rebuilding costs but I can explain a bit more on my case.

    We will cancel the contents insurance (no contents any more) and of course we will retain the building insurance. Also I will retain the homecare insurance which guarantees no huge bills for central heating, plumbing or electrical breakdowns.

    The Nottingham house has two double bedrooms and a third bedroom which is smaller but can actually take a double bed.

    With weather like this – freezing cols and raining – I just can’t wait to get back to Thailand.

    Take care



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