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How To Fast Track Past The Long Immigration Queues At Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport And Get Through In Minutes Rather Than Hours
Three Ways To Beat Those Frustrating Immigration Queues
My excitement at packing my bag for another trip to my retirement house we built in Pakchong (Pak Chong) is tempered by the thought of suffering the long delays and waiting to get through the immigration checks at the airport on arrival. (And on departure but let’s not get ahead of ourselves!)
I started writing this post assuming that I would be in for the long queues at the airport immigration that we all know and hate.
Thinking about these delays, I recalled something someone had written on the Thai Visa wesbsite about fast tracking through immigration because he had a business class air ticket. I started to investigate the possibility of this fast track service and almost by accident discovered that anyone could fast track through the immigration, either the FREE way or by paying for it, whatever kind of air ticket they had bought!
This is the story…
Just How Bad Are The Long Immigration Queues At Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport?
I have been following with disconcertion the debate on the Thai Visa forum (Massive Delays Through Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport Immigration) about the long delays to get through immigration at the Suvarnabhumi Airport and as I pack my bag for my next trip to Thailand I’m not looking forward to it at all.
Some Comments From Disgruntled Travelers On The Waiting Times At The Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport
These are just a few of the many comments by travellers from the Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport Passenger Reviews and Customer opinions forum on the AirlineQuality.com website.
“All I can say is the immigration procedure is farcical.”
“I’d rank such disorganised airports as Sydney, Ho Chi Minh and Denpasar as better run than Bangkok”
” I travel all round the world and this airport ranks as one of the worst major airports I travel through.”
“Transiting through this airport is nightmare.”
Fast Track Method No. 1. Get A Business Class Air Ticket?
Last time I entered it took me about an hour to get through (entering Thailand) and I was pretty fed up I can say. One guy on the Thai Visa forum said that if you have a Business Class ticket than you can go through the business channel and short-cut the queues.
It so happens that when I went to buy my air ticket earlier this year there were only one or two spaces left on direct flights near Easter and they were on Business Class on Thai Airways. I really had no choice but to cough up the £2,555.83 * ($3,322.58 or 122,679.84 Thai Baht) fare if I wanted to travel at that time (I did). Ouch!
Even so I could not get the exact flight I wanted and had to leave at lunchtime instead of the evening. Hence I lost a day at work.
* By comparison, my standard class ticket with EVA Air last Christmas was £1,149.73 ($1494.65, 551087.40 Baht). So Business Class is about double the normal fare. You’d expect a few extra perks for that apart from a wider seat and decent food.
Anyway I read this on the AirlineQuality.com website and I perked up a bit:-
“My wife and I flew business class and we were given a premium pass to help us through security and immigration.”
Also I just found this statement on flyerwiki.net:-
“At Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport, Royal Silk Class passengers have their own exclusive check-in lounge, with separate fast-track immigration channels, before they proceed to any of six Royal Silk lounges”
And this:-
Fast-Track Immigration at Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi International airport
Updated on July 14, 2010
“All Première guests traveling from Bangkok on all Jet Airways flights will be able to enjoy the new Fast-Track Immigration service at the Suvarnabhumi International airport at Bangkok. No need to wait in long immigration lines! This new privilege offers Première guests a special immigration channel which bypasses normal queuing.” on the jetairways.com website. (Admittedly not Thai Airways, but the principle is the same. i.e. it seems that a fast-track immigration service is available.)
So I concluded that Business Class travelers can short-cut the immigration queues on landing at Bangkok.
Can anybody comment on whether you can by-pass the immigration queues on entering Suvarnabhumi Airport if you are have a business class air ticket?
Fast Track Method No. 2. The Free Way To Beat The Queues – Cheat
How I Avoided Missing My Flight Due To Long Immigration Queues Leaving Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport
If the immigration queues on arrival at the Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport are terrible, they are nowhere near the terrible queues to get through the Thai immigration when leaving Thailand through the Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport.
I experienced this for the first time whan I left Bangkok in January, 2012 and I nearly missed my flight.
I arrived at the airport with plenty of time to check in and there was no check-in queue. Then when I went through to the immigration desks my jaw dropped when I saw the huge queue. I had been used to long queues at Heathrow airport in the UK after the liquid bomb scare, but Heathrow seems like a fast-track process compared to what I witnessed in Bangkok.
The queue was ‘controlled’ by those portable posts with black webbing tape strung between them. The posts were arranged in zig-zag back and forth across the immigration hall and about twenty lines deep to the front of the queue.
As I slowly (very slowly) moved along the queue I became quite alarmed at how slowly it was moving. As an engineer (engineers always count or calculate everyhting) I started to count how far the que moved in a minute. Then a quick calculation showed me that is would take two hours to get to the front of the queue. Then I would still have the long walk out to the terminal whch as you know can be half an hour.
In danger of missing my flight, this was unacceptable.
Always naughty, I slipped under the webbing tape and was in the next line. Nobody complained so I did it again. And again until I was at the front of the queue and ready for the first hurdle of the immigration process – no not the immigration desks – but security. Shoes off, belt off, lap top out, jacket off and through. Then it was straight on to the immigration desks where the queues’s were quite short.
I’m not looking forward to doing that again.
Fast Track Method No. 3. Fast Track Airport Services
Fast Track Services To Avoid The Immigration Queues At Suvarnabhumi Airport
As I became engrossed in this issue of the long delays at the airport and the possibility of being able to fast track through immigration I started to do a bit of investigation on the Internet.
First I found this on teakdoor.com:-
Danish-Thai Chamber of Commerce : Fast Track Immigration in Suvarnabhumi Airport
03 February 2011
Danish-Thai Chamber of Commerce offers Corporate Members to buy “fast track” tickets that will make it possible for the members to skip the long waiting lines at the immigration in Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport. Hours of waiting in the ordinary line for tourists can be cut down to 10 minutes at the Fast Track counter for only 200 baht per ticket that are sold by the Chamber’s office.
“If you travel from and to Suvarnabhumi Airport on a regular basis you will spend much time in the immigration process. The fast track service will save a lot of valuable time for our members and at a very competitive price,” says Stig Vagt-Andersen, Member of the Board at DanCham, who has arranged the special offer.
DanCham offers 10 fast track tickets at 2,000 Baht while pricing found on various internet sites shows prices more than ten times higher than the offer from DanCham. Usually, the fast track service will be provided if you got a Premium Class flight ticket or you can buy the service from several companies in the airport.
That sparked my imagination and very quickly I found that there are several companies in Bangkok offering a fast track service at the airport to circumvent the immigration queues. Of course there is a fee for this service. Here are some of the fast track services I came across, with examples of their services:-
http://fasttrack.in.th/products.php
Service: Meet and Assist and escort through formalities on arrival and departure First Class lounge access at airport on departure.
Price: One person 3,700 Baht
Service: As soon as you step foot off the aircraft, we will have staff waiting for you at the gate to escort you to the VIP fast track immigration line for your convenience. After immigration, our staff will escort you to the baggage carousel and assist you retrieve your baggage. After retrieval of your baggage, we will escort you to the fast track customs line to avoid long customs check saving you time. If you have relatives/friends picking you up, we will make sure you meet up with them.
Price: 1,400 Baht. (it doesn’t clearly say if this is just arrival only or arrival and departure. I assume arrival only)
http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html
Service: Our friendly Airport Hostess or host will meet & greet with you at the arrival gate, holding a sign with your name or a more discrete expression like a company name, logo, initials, etc.
She or he will help with carry-on luggage and lead you to the exclusive fast track immigration counters, where he or she will assist with immigration documents details to ensure that your official entry into Thailand occurs without any delays.
After collecting your luggage from the Bagage claim area, she or he will then guide you through customs and deliver your bags to one of our limousines that just then pulls up in front of the arrival hall at Suvarnabhumi Airport.
If you are traveling by other means of transportation, you will be taken to it instead. If the pick up vehicle does not hold green or yellow license plates, please ask the driver to park in the parking building and meet at outerdoor number 3.
Price: 1,100 Baht. (Arrival only, limousine not included)
Price: 2,100 Baht. (Arrival and departure, limousine not included)
Other Services Offered
These companies also offer other services, typically limousine transport to/from your hotel.
Which Method Will You Choose To Get Through Thai Immigration At The Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport?
Grin And Bear It?
There are those who hate being ripped off and see these fast-track services as being a rip-off. These people may take the view that the airport shouldn’t need fast-track services to get what is taken for granted in most other airports around the world.
Having spent many thousands of Baht on air tickets and other transport costs the last thing they want is to fork out for ‘services’ that fill in for the Thai immigration and airport planning and execution failures.
They may take a cynical view and see the immigration department deliberately creating long queues so that they can take a rake-off from the fast-track services. I personally don’t think this is true, but some people may think so and consequently get angry.
Pay For The Fast-Track Service?
I have no experience of the services, having only just discovered them.
If anyone has used them every reader would love to hear their comments, so please post your experiences below.
Get A Business Class Ticket?
Again, I have not flown Business Class to Bangkok (until this time coming), so I have no experience, but watch this space for a report in a couple of weeks time.
At around twice the normal fair, business class tickets are extremely expensive and most people would find the additional cost difficult to justify. I’m travelling alone but if you are travelling with your wife two trips (to the U.K.) would cost around £10,000. That’s $15,000 or 480,000 Baht! Half a million Baht!
That’s nearly as much as we paid for the brand new Toyota Hilux Vigo pickup we bought in Bangkok.
Whatever your views and experience please leave a comment below. Your email address will not be divulged to any third party and you have the choice if you want to be kept posted of further comment.
This Is Where We ‘Always’ Go For Lunch In Pakchong (Pak Chong) – Plus Buying A Lathe In Thailand
Pah Pai has been running the wonderful restaurant in Pakchong (Pak Chong) for around 30 years.
I always look forward to having lunch in Pakchong (Pak Chong) at Pah Pai’s restaurant.
It has a lovely garden and plenty of shade from the sun.
This is a sign advertising her restaurant in Pakchong (Pak Chong):-
Here is a photo of Pah Pai herself in the restaurant garden:-
Watch this short video to see how lovely the garden restaurant is:-
Pah Pai’s speciality is Larp Phet – is a north eastern food and Phet means Duck.
Pah also does a lovely Yum Pla Muk (squid salad) and of course the usual range of Thai yams and curries.
A lunch for Kanyah and myself with about three dishes plus rice and two large bottles of Heineken costs around 500 Baht.
Buying A Lathe In Bangkok For My Model Engineering Workshop
When I retire to Thailand I intend to be making model steam engines and other kinds of models.
To do this you need a model engineering workshop which must contain a steel workbench and a lathe.
A milling and drilling machine are also important, and my lathe incorporates both of those machine tools – saving me a lot of money.
On the Model Engineers Workshop In Thailand – Buying A Lathe page I show you how I bought a lathe from a lathe shop in Bangkok. Also there is a story about using the Garmin nüvi® 2565 Sat Nav to find the lathe shop in Bangkok.
As to the steel workbench, you can see that on the Model Engineers Workshop In Thailand – Steel Bench page.
As I Struggle Here Back In The U.K. To Catch Up With My Work, Projects, And Try To Get Back To Normal Living – Retiring In Thailand Is Becoming A Bit Of A Strain!
I’ve been back in the U.K. a week now since my Christmas trip to Pakchong (Pak Chong) where our Thai retirement house is and I’m feeling under a lost of strain and pressure.
Far away is the idea of retiring in Thailand right now.
And yet a lot of this pressure is because I am planning to retire to Thailand that I am creating too many jobs and too much pressure for myself.
Trying To Catch Up, Trying To Stand Still, Trying Just To Get Some Piece Of Mind
- Make all the posts on the RetiringInThailand website using the photos and movies of my last trip
- Reply to and approve all the comments made on the website by dozens of readers
- Catch up with work at my day-job
- Catch up with my other two projects one having a deadline coming up in a few weeks and I have a stack of work to do
- Prepare and pay the VAT for the last quater for my own limited company
- Chase up a load of stuff I ordered last year by mail order (for model engineering) and which hasn’t arrived
- A major project related to my car
- Buy air tickets for my next trip to Thailand at Easter
- Buy tools and a model kit to take to Thailand on my next ‘retiring in Thailand’ trip to our retirment hosue in Pakchong (Pak Chong)
- Tryto finish my model steam engine I’m building in my model engineering worshop in Nottingham.
- Work on the design of my next model engine (a steam traction engine) to be built in the U.K.
- Try to suport Kanyah in Thailand as she suffers the loss of the thai landscape gardener, lives on her own and tries to combat loneliness and bordom
- Ponder on how to keep kanyah happy and occupied when she comes here in the summer and I’m still working 12 – 14 houras a day…
The list goes on and on and on… and all this while I’m working away from home in London during the week only travelling back to my home in Nottinghma at week ends.
Why Am I telling You All This?
- So that you can understand why I am slow respond to your comments posted on the RetiringInThailand website and to answer questions, and slow to post the photos and videos from my last thailand trip
- So that you’ll understand that retirning to (for me) Thailand is not at all a straighforward thing like jumping on a plane and lying in the sun for the rest of your life
- It may be theraputic for me to get all this stuff off my chest and written down – may take some of the pressure off me
One New Page Posted “Setting Up A Model Engineering Workshop In Thailand – Making A Steel Work Bench”
This exercise (plus buying the lathe) sounds trivial but for me it was a major test of my resolve to retire to Thailand. To see whether I am ready to make the commitment or not.
On retring to Thailand my plan is to spend a lost of time in my model engineering workshop making steam models. So, in order to do that i need to invest time, money and effort into buying the tools I need for the workshop and setting it up.
I could have easily spent the last two weeks in Thailand ‘on holiday’ – going out and around or doing not much at all. But instead I had to prove that I could start setting this model engineering workshop up in Thailand ready for my retirement.
This is not an easy thing to do in a country where ‘model engineering’ isn’t heard of and there aren’t many places you can buy the tools and materials.
Plus there is the inertia and the need to motivate Kanyah to help me go out and seek out what I need. And to fight Kanyah’s critisism of me spending a lot of money on ‘silly tools and steel’. A lot of determination and courage was brought to bear.
Anyway the Making a Steel Work Bench in Thailand project is finished now and the story is online.
Buying and installing a lathe in Thailand is another project that I completed but the web page is not complete yet.
That’s my rant for today – got to get back to that huge to-do list I made above.
As The Retirement House Build Project In Pakchong (Pak Chong), Thailand Is Reported “Finished”, Alan Delves Into Electric Fishing Machines, SEO School, And Others
From Alan
Tuesday 11 October 2011: 0630 AM
I came in to the office especially early this morning to send you a very quick update with the news about our retiring in Thailand plan and the retirement house we are building in Pakchong but the email I typed became too rambling so I’ve posted it here online instead.
The House Is “Finished”
This is the latest news by phone from Kanyah in Pakchong. According to her the house is “finished”.
After much cajoling by me she even eventually got all the light fittings put up and has had the lights switched on. “It’s beautiful” she says and “I’ll send you some photographs”…
That was a few weeks ago and guess what? No photos.
I used to love coming in early to work and excitedly switch on the PC to see what new photos I have from Thailand. Not any more. I don’t raise my expectations so high – then I don’t get disappointed when I see nothing in the inbox.
She’s Still Not Moving In
Although the house is “finished” Kanyah still refuses to move in and occupy it. She’s having other works done like some massive concrete slabs around the house and an outside toilet built.
And before she can move in all that has to be finished, the builder’s debris removed from the garden and there has to be a special ‘house blessing’ ceremony on a date set by the monk according to her birthday.
The Next Set of Photos
I did upload a set of photos to the website and added the commentary – that took me about 2 weeks to do – and I was just about to push the publish button when a creeping doubt came over me.
As I was uploading the photos I kept being niggled by a thought that there was something missing. Checking the previous two Posts told me what I was thinking.
There was another set of photos on my PC earlier than the set I had just uploaded!
So in order to keep the story in the right sequence, I’m afraid I’ll have to upload the previous set before I can publish the current set.
Getting Websites Ranked High in The Search Engines
I really seem to make a meal out of posting photos on the website. But a large part of this is because I am careful to make sure that when the Post goes live it is going to help get the website ranked highly in the search engines.
I could just throw a bunch of pictures up here and it would only take a few minutes but that doesn’t give the reader any narrative and add any value to the photos, nor would it help the search engine results.
It’s the text that takes the time. Just to satisfy the Search Engines, each photo needs a descriptive Filename, a Title, an Alternative Title, a Caption and a Description.
After I have done that for the dozen or so pictures I want to upload, I then have to write the narrative around the photos to explain what is going on out there in Pakchong.
Anyone interested in getting websites ranked highly in the Search Engines could do worse than see how I do it by watching the movies in the free SEO School on my other website. Here are some examples:-
- How I Get Websites Ranked At The Top Of Google And How You Can Do The Same
- A Live Case Study Of SEO In Action
Workaholic?
Yes, I probably am. And it does get in the way of doing the things I like, like building my steam engine, updating this website, communicating with my fellow online Thailand friends.
But look – I’m planning to retire in Thailand soon. To do that I need to get my hands on all the money I can and at the moment – in this recession – I’m not turning down any opportunity to earn it. Building up this nest egg is made more difficult by the fact that as soon as the money comes in out it goes again the Thailand. Oh boy! Will I be glad when the house is really finished and the spending has stopped!
So I’m working 12 – 14 hours a day including weekends and tying to fit in a bit of updating the website and steam engine building just to keep my sanity.
As you may know, I work in the construction industry and I have just posted a few photo of some of my projects on the website here:-
http://retiringinthailand.net/more/about/construction-industry-bio
I did that in response to a question from a website visitor, Dr Wortley, about what I do who is an expert in the field of electric fishing machines!
Electric Fishing Machines
Apparently these machines momentarily stun the fish in a river or pond and they can be selectively collected for e.g. research, transfer to a better waterway, or just for eating.
The remaining fish soon recover and swim away unharmed.
So, a question to anyone reading this. Have you any idea about using electric fishing machines in Thailand? If so, please leave your comment below or wend me an email via the Contact Us form. I’m sure Dr Wortley and our other reader – plus myself of course – would be very interested in what you have to say.
An Apology To My Followers
Thank to everyone who has contacted me and/or posted a comment on the RetiringInThailand website. I appreciate all of your observations and I’m acutely aware that I owe a response to many of you.
So please accept my apologies for not getting in touch already and be assured that I’ll get round to it – time permitting – as soon as possible.
I’ve rambled on for far too long so I’ll leave off now and speak to you later.
Thank you for visiting
Alan




