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Visiting The Amphur In Pakchong (Pak Chong) To Investigate Requirements For Our Sons Nationality

Post Added Tuesday 6th August 2013

Today we went to the Amphur in Pakchong (Pak Chong) to enquire about the process and requirements to allow our son, Alex to obtain Thai Nationality.

Re-Cap on Why We Want Alex to Have Thai Nationality

As I explained on the “Why I Can’t Retire To Thailand” one of my major concerns is losing all my investment in our retirement house and land in Pakchong (Pak Chong) if Kanyah should die.

Not a nice subject, I know, but better to face up to the possibility now that to do nothing face the consequences if it should happen. As we are at the moment with the land in Kanyah’s name ownership would I’m sure go into limbo if Kanyah passed on. Certainly I would not be able to sell up and return to U.K. and repatriate my huge investment and I can’t envisage living here without her.

As you know, a foreigner cannot own land in Thailand. The idea is for Alex to get Thai Nationality and then transfer the property and land into his name.

The Thai Army Conscription Issue

We have been over this Thai Nationality issue previously and even had Alex come over here to get his Nationality. That’s when Alex was 22 and he flew to Thailand on Sunday 7th February, 2010,

It was only when he went to the Amphur to apply that he was warned that he could be conscripted into the Thai Army as a Thai National until he reached 30 years old. At 22 years old he was eligible and because he was scared to be conscripted ho decided not to go any further with his application – the trip was wasted.

All this was covered on the Our Strategy For Buying Land In Thailand Post.

So What’s Changed?

It’s 3 1/2 years later and Alex is 27 years old. The Thai conscription laws haven’t changed (as far as I know) so what’s changed if Alex is now prepared to seek Thai Nationality?

Well, Alex has accepted my argument that the chances of him being conscripted are very slim. Just look at his “qualifications” for joining the Thai Army:-

  • He’s under 30 years old
  • He can’t speak a word of Thai, nor read nor write
  • He’s tall and still. He can’t sit cross-legged on the floor
  • He has a bad back and suffers from sciatica
  • He doesn’t know very much about Thailand or its geography, customs etc
  • He’s not a Buddhist
  • He can’t eat hot spicy Thai food
  • In a couple of years he’ll be thirty years old so unless he’s called up right now he’ll be to old
  • He lives in the U.K. and not Thailand. I just cant see the Recruiting Seargent flying out to England to look for him and apply for the Extradition Order to get him back to Thailand where he has a 50% chance of picking out the black ball and (presumably) they’ll have to fly him back again!
  • And probably more important I have been told that one of the reasons for National Service in Thailand is instill a strong sense of pride and Nationalism in the young people which will benefit themselves and the Thai Nation when they have completed their tour of duty. This will not apply in Alex’s case because if ho did the national Service in Thailand he would most likely return to UK afterwards.

I Didn’t Pursuade Alex to Change His Mind

Please be assured of this – I put no pressure on Alex at all about this matter. It was Alex’s decision to help me protect my investment by seeking Thai nationality.

So enough of the history and off to the Amphur.

A Visit To The Amphur Office In Pakchong (Pak Chong) To Obtain Thai Nationality Requirements.

This didn’t take long. I spent more time taking photographs than we did inside the building.

Kanyah enquired at the information desk and was told that they don’t do Nationality. At this Amphur they only do births and deaths, marriage and divorce.

For Nationality issues we had better ‘go on the website’ (whichever website that is) or go to the big Amphur in Korat. (AKA Nakhon Ratchasima).

Why Couldn’t They Have Done This Three Years Ago?

I was led to believe from Kanyah all those years ago when Alex came to Thailand to seek his Thai Passport that it would be a simple formality only not pursued because of the conscription issue.

If they had only asked what the requirements were then we would have know three and a half years ago that more research would be needed. research I’ll have to do now.

It’s never easy is it?

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